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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 30, 2010 9:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Rob on Bob

Isn't it about time we let go of this really pretty minor incident in Robert Hall Weir's colourful life? You're all making this place look like a damn teenybopper fan forum with your obsessing on band members.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 30, 2010 5:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

hey Rob, I have no idea why this bothers so many people, oh I know because it's Weir. Anyone else would get a pass. I thought he looked lit and you know what? GOOD FOR HIM. Have some become so anti in their old age that we forget this band fucking partied. Spare me the we only took drugs for higher awareness bullshit too. Please. The Dead were total hedonists, not all of them all the time but it was the norm.

I'm not saying anything against those who had demons and conquered them, or saying you have to get wasted to have a good time ( although I have had plenty of good times ), just saying how is this that big of a deal? And hell their ticket prices these days are down to cheaper than what a tab at a bar with shitty julebox music would run you. So I'd rather see them playing sloppy than sitting in a bar with shitty dance tunes or a bad local band.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jul 30, 2010 5:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

I agree. Here's another thing none of us failed to mention yesterday. His age. He's old. Seriously. He's not a spring chicken. Whether he was on something or not there is a good chance going forward there might be nights like this because of his age. The body and mind do strange things as you get older. Could have been something as simple as a senior moment

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Poster: vapors Date: Jul 30, 2010 6:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Happens to me all the time, and I is only 52.

Heads all empty and I don't care.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Jul 30, 2010 10:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Damn! I clicked on hoping it was a visual slide show.
bummer...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 30, 2010 10:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

I thought it said Bob on Bob :) thereby confirming Rob's feeling that I have carried on too much about this already. On the other hand, I'm not the one starting a new thread about it ...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 30, 2010 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Rob on Bob action huh? Well there's something to contemplate for all of a nanosecond before reaching for the industrial strength mental floss.



Bet the 'tache tickles anyway...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 30, 2010 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

I sincerely hope you're tongue in cheek there Mister Rob on Bob (eeeiiuuuuwwww! what disturbing image), cause this is the crap I live for now...well, okay, but still; it can't be any worse than yet another recommendation from 82 for BillyDL, or another "TJI" show review that with one word substitution was the same one I ignored the day before...if we're not here for the absolutely idiotic antics like sorting out if Bob's just Bob, or Bob's stoned, or Bob needs help (or gawd forbid, he's "on Rob"), why are we? I thought everyone decided just talking the DEAD (music 65-95) was just not cutting it...I know I did.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Jul 30, 2010 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

http://www.archive.org/details/gd82-04-14.sbd.braverman.7629.sbeok.shnf

TJI: nice show

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Poster: vapors Date: Jul 30, 2010 7:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Excellent reply sir, and great pick too.
Very glad to have been there myself.
And I wasn’t late to that rock and roll show!

"I'd like to find the proper potion
To try to capture your emotion
You're right beside me but I
I can't get through"

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Poster: vapors Date: Jul 30, 2010 8:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

So that the brilliant subtlety of my post goes not unnoticed: Those lines from Lazy Lightning are ones missed by Bob at this performance, and to me they somehow seemed apropos with regard to how some of us are bewildered by the others of us not accepting the value of a particular era.

And for those who aren’t familiar with this show, and didn’t listen to BillyD’s link, Bob has some funny comments at the start regarding tardy band members.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 30, 2010 7:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

You knew I was kidding right? Except for the part about liking to talk nonDEAD...but you knew that already too.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Jul 30, 2010 7:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Yep, all in good fun Tell. I have a much greater appreciation for the early years because of all you misfits here- I think I am following the Elbow path. I even find myself agreeing with Cliff more often than not these days!

1974 is my new favorite year, but I still love the period of Aug 1980 through Oct 1982 (and throw in the fall tour 1983). And lucky you Vapors as this show was my first find on the archive (I think I put in a review back in 2004)

I dont mind the off topic stuff but feelings tend to get hurt with certain topics so I just keep my mouth shut although you (Tell) have always been a model for civility (except in the few instances someone has pissed you off- I can think of a few like Dan Healy, Skies etc)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 31, 2010 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Yes, I think that was esp true in my "excessive posting" era (hmmm, have I been here long enough to have an "era"?). And partly when I tried to play peace maker or whatever, and took it far too seriously. Although now, I have to admit, I feel free to take a pot shot, eg, at Bob here, that in the past I would've felt constrained to avoid...Yep, I am really that pathetic; actually worry about this place and what I post--but you gotta remember, I am not a New Age, puter competent punk like most of you youngsters and I really don't know how to act under these circumstances most of the time. Mostly.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Jul 30, 2010 11:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

here's your mental floss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h121VfLPsDo

just what the doctor ordered

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jul 30, 2010 2:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

many of the comments on that post come out of sincere concern for the person (bob) and the music. If bob were actually in seriously bad shape (which I doubt) then, yeah, i care enough to make a topic out of it on this forum, and i think i'm justified. some other posts reflected, as you say, an adolescent urge to spread rumors, which is unfortunate, but after having watched those videos i can't say i'm surprised that such rumors have sprung up, however unsubstantiated most of them are.

this post, however, i find pretty funny in that you've devoted a whole OTHER post to how pointless a PREVIOUS post was. i suspect you are well aware of the irony here and will take it on faith that you are taking all this with a grain of salt ;)

This post was modified by midnightcarousel on 2010-07-30 21:52:42

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 30, 2010 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

I'm sure there was a lot of genuine concern but I did think that an unreasonably high proportion of the Bad Bob posts verged on the hypocritical and had just a little too much schadenfreude about them. I found that a touch distasteful.

But yes, my pointless new thread on a pointless discussion was little more than idle mischief making.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 30, 2010 3:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

My initial concern with the rumor was that he may have suffered a mini-stroke. My father did a few years back and it was the start/sign of vascular dementia - not something I wish on anyone (including Glenn Beck).

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 30, 2010 9:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

And I suppose you didn't appreciate my Justin Timberlake and Justin Bieber posts? Perhaps I should start my own blog, "this justin", to follow their respective careers?

Hey, I've been busy the past few days going back 3 years to that Cardinals' tour. If people want to hear how Magnolia Mountain and Peaceful Valley really should sound.... [which are not new Hunter tunes in the Furthur setlist, but older Ryan Adams' compositions]

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 30, 2010 10:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Well at least you're not calling it Justin Time, so that's something.

I linked Micah to Joan Osborne doing a standout Magnolia Mountain with Phil and Friends the other day. Did you catch that?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 30, 2010 10:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Nope - will go back and check that out. Thanks.

I like Joan - she played with the Funk Bros here a few years back and it was quite good.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 30, 2010 10:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

I absolutely can not get enough of the clip of Joan and The Funk Brothers doing What Becomes of the Broken Hearted. Totally majestic.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Jul 30, 2010 11:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Absolutley right there with you on this Rob.
I have seen the DVD of Joan performing with the funk brothers and she is amazing. I'm not too crazy about her own songs for the most part, but I really like her singing on alot of the covers she does. "Broken Hearted" is especially tasty. Your link the other day led me to some other youtube stuff of hers that I had not seen before.
Really like the version she did of the Hall & Oates' song, Sara Smile. The woman has an incredible set of pipes!!

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jul 30, 2010 1:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Be careful what you ask for.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1293649/Justin-Timberlake-reveals-love-Grateful-Dead-goes-jog-New-York.html

Ah well, I just noticed I'm late to the game. Anyhow, anyone who sings 'Dick in a Box' on TV is OK by me.

This post was modified by Diamondhead on 2010-07-30 20:08:30

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 30, 2010 4:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

" anyone who sings 'Dick in a Box' on TV is OK by me."

i'll second that one. he was actually ok in that movie alpha dog too. you know, as much as i cant stand that music, and i'm also pretty sure that he's wearing that because vintage rock shirts are in vogue these days ( they always have some cool ones at target ), there's something about him that seems to make me thnk he's probably pretty cool.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 30, 2010 1:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

The guy has a great sense of humor, is talented, and doesn't take him too self seriously. Kudos to him - but I'll pass on the inevitable boy band reunion. Take That!

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jul 30, 2010 1:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Be careful what you wish for. :)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1293649/Justin-Timberlake-reveals-love-Grateful-Dead-goes-jog-New-York.html

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jul 31, 2010 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Agreed. Tempest in a teacup.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jul 30, 2010 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Did you all see the Further - Nokia Theater - July 28 - YouTube clip for El Paso? El Paso clip is 5:30. This is what has some people worked up.

Notice, just to the right of Bob's vocal mic stand (on Bob's left), is another stand with a thin rectangle shape on top. The stand looks to be approximately 3 feet tall. What's that on top of it? A teleprompter?

Notice at 2:15 in the El Paso clip - what are Phil and those 2 guys chatting about? It looks like Phil signaled for the stage crew to come to him. Is he saying the teleprompter out?

Perhaps it was a prompter problem, and Bobby hugely relied on it for certain songs. El Paso lyrics are difficult for me. At his age, and being Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead, I understand that.

Maybe this was a prompter problem. As a technical maintenance engineer, I've worked with teleprompters, IFBs, audio mix-minus feeds, microwave and satelltie live-shots from the news truck, and you-name-it. It's funny to watch young reporters panic when they're live, on the air, and their gear malfunctions.

What about the rest of the Further show? How was it?

Tapers comments for this show, upped at bt-eTree, are very critical of this show. Since I didn't spend $250 on tickets to go see them, and all the other efforts that go with attending a show like this, I will not criticize them.

Taper #1: "They stuck all the tapers in the back left corner of the theater if you where looking at the stage . Gave us about a ten by ten area and broke balls about how high the mic stands went up so this is what i got out of that whole cluster fuck . Bobby was a little fucked up for the first set i thought he was going to fall down a few times and was nodding out while playing also forgot the words to most of the songs . El paso he forgot every word and it was mostly a instrumental ."

Taper #2: "I was set up right next to Taper #1, and boy did he nail it. What an absolute disaster of a show. Bobby owes all the fans and the band a big apology. Some people paid over $250 on stub hub to get tix for that poor excuse of a show. And the sound at Nokia is flat taboot."

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Poster: shorthopper88 Date: Jul 30, 2010 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

A teleprompter problem sounds much more likely that what a lot of others are saying. Thanks for a REASONABLE analysis of what might have happened.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jul 31, 2010 7:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

"Bobby owes all the fans and the band a big apology"

Funny how I never remember anyone saying this about Jerry who frequently muffed lyrics even when he was feeling good, not to mention some of his borderline incoherent performances in the mid 80s.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Jul 30, 2010 10:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

UGLY RUMOURS.... they've plagued these guys from day one.

Hey Rob, I hope there're no hard feelings about yesterday's postings. All in good fun and all that.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 30, 2010 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

Absolutely none at all. PG. And I hope the vice is versa?

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Jul 30, 2010 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob on Bob

It's all good, man.